These were my sisters. She tried them on and that’s all. She wears a wide shoe but these still made her bunions on both feet hurt. She had socks on when tried on. As you can see they’ve never been worn. I have a pair of 91/2 that I’ve worn for about 10 years. I think these are the best Sketchers. Slide to see the bottom of the shoes From smoke/pet free home. Porch pick up and cash or Venmo. I do have a shoe box I can put these in but not the one they came in